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Post by Confusion on Nov 30, 2012 20:40:13 GMT -5
It was job number 1286639 in the sociology department: two career-track lecturers and one professorial appointment. Deadline was Nov 18. Definitely just sociology. I'm of sure if we are talking about the same position or not. Cluster hire usually means hiring several people in different departments but with a shared theme (eg the environment). This seems like more of a traditional hire within a single dept, just with several openings.
There appears to be another position opening that is broad applications to LSE with a due date in December.
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Post by whats up on Dec 3, 2012 21:44:48 GMT -5
i heard today that a grad student at Berkeley was offered the LSE job but is taking the johns hopkins job. Any truth in that?
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Post by indeed on Dec 4, 2012 0:15:51 GMT -5
There is much truth to that.
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Post by asde on Dec 4, 2012 12:46:51 GMT -5
There is much truth to that. Can someone post a link to the jobs apps due in December? Also, exactly which job we are talking about here is getting pretty confusing. It's hard to imagine, for instance, that the Berkeley candidate was offered the LSE job that a few of us were long-shortlisted for last week since in the communique it said interviews would be January 10 & 11.
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Post by drbearjew on Dec 4, 2012 13:10:54 GMT -5
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Post by asde on Dec 4, 2012 13:18:32 GMT -5
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Post by undc on Dec 4, 2012 13:46:02 GMT -5
I can't decide whether or not to apply for this. Could any of you give your reasons for applying (other than "it's LSE!") -- the money is insufficient for the location, and the work environment is not great unless you're a middle aged white male (although Calhoun presumably will shake things up). I'd be really interested in hearing others' reasons for overlooking these things (yeah, I know: apply for everything, don't be such a snob, blah blah blah. I'm weary of the beating I'm taking in this market, please go easy on me).
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Post by drbearjew on Dec 4, 2012 13:51:11 GMT -5
My reasons for applying:
My partner and I believe living in London could be a great opportunity.
The people in the department (and University) are incredible scholars, doing work that I find really interesting.
The pay is better than what I currently make (even after adjusting for cost of living).
The tenure requirements, while heavy, are in-line with my own goals and aspirations.
As someone with a relatively low chance of getting this job, I considered it as an opportunity, albeit small, to potentially get my work and research interests read by people who I wish to engage with at a later date (don't underestimate this - I've had some success in being in contact with individuals at departments where I was soundly rejected for a job, simply because they thought what I do is unique and interesting).
At the end of the day, I put on my rose-colored glasses when applying to jobs like this. But I made my peace with it.
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Post by confused on Dec 4, 2012 15:19:45 GMT -5
The problem I've had is understanding how to get 'round the bit in the application about whether you're qualified for work in the UK. It didn't seem like you could proceed past a certain point. What am I missing?
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Post by drbearjew on Dec 4, 2012 15:24:30 GMT -5
As I understand it, you can mark "no" and still be considered. Upon hiring, the department and university will work to get you the necessary qualifying documentation.
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Post by anon20 on Dec 4, 2012 17:23:12 GMT -5
It was job number 1286639 in the sociology department: two career-track lecturers and one professorial appointment. Deadline was Nov 18. Definitely just sociology. I'm of sure if we are talking about the same position or not. Cluster hire usually means hiring several people in different departments but with a shared theme (eg the environment). This seems like more of a traditional hire within a single dept, just with several openings. There appears to be another position opening that is broad applications to LSE with a due date in December. Sorry if this is a bit of a silly question. You mentioned that cluster hires are along themes, but I can't seem to find anything on their hiring website about a specific theme they are hiring for. Any idea if LSE is looking to hire specialists within a certain area, or is it just that they are hiring a bunch of people this year for no other reason than to beef up their faculty?
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Post by samequestionhere on Dec 4, 2012 21:37:41 GMT -5
I have the same question. This just looks like a mass, 20-person hire. I don't see any hint of cluster-hiring here. Am I missing something?
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not sure but not worrying
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Post by not sure but not worrying on Dec 4, 2012 22:21:05 GMT -5
I have the same question. This just looks like a mass, 20-person hire. I don't see any hint of cluster-hiring here. Am I missing something? I think there are two listings, neither of which particularly fit the description of a cluster hire: 1) Three positions specifically in sociology, due date Nov 18. This is the position for which some of us got the email requesting more materials. 2) A second job listing, deadline Dec 7 I think, which doesn't seem to have any specifics, just a general call for applications to the school at all levels. As the previous poster said, this seems to be a mass hire. That's it. No real cluster hiring involved as far as I can see, or alternatively you could say that both positions are cluster hires since they are both hiring for more than one position. Not sure how the reported Berkeley hiring fits in here. Seems like LSE is hiring lots of people so it may not be directly related. Regardless, it's not worth worrying, either they will call or they won't.
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Post by undc again on Dec 4, 2012 22:40:17 GMT -5
My reasons for applying: My partner and I believe living in London could be a great opportunity. The people in the department (and University) are incredible scholars, doing work that I find really interesting. The pay is better than what I currently make (even after adjusting for cost of living). The tenure requirements, while heavy, are in-line with my own goals and aspirations. As someone with a relatively low chance of getting this job, I considered it as an opportunity, albeit small, to potentially get my work and research interests read by people who I wish to engage with at a later date (don't underestimate this - I've had some success in being in contact with individuals at departments where I was soundly rejected for a job, simply because they thought what I do is unique and interesting). At the end of the day, I put on my rose-colored glasses when applying to jobs like this. But I made my peace with it. Thank you very much for your openness and yes, I agree, amazing people there. Were it a better fit for my personal life, I would definitely submit an application. Best of luck with yours, DBJ
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Post by UKbased on Dec 5, 2012 5:00:39 GMT -5
The tenure requirements, while heavy, are in-line with my own goals and aspirations. Err...there is no such thing as tenure in the UK. (That also means there is no tenure track.)
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