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Post by losing hope on Dec 10, 2021 12:21:05 GMT -5
I had two flyouts this year and didn't get the offer either time. I'm unsure if I want to keep trying to get an academic career. The idea of continuing to bounce around with postdocs and VAPs during an uncertain economy & job market does not appeal to me very much.
When is it time to move on? I've only done one postdoc. Should I do one more before moving to industry? Or should I just make the jump now?
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Post by losing hope too on Mar 30, 2022 13:21:55 GMT -5
Same here. Two flyouts no job. I thought I fit the job very well but still no response.
Got an offer for another postdoc, which is more policy-oriented. I guess I may use this postdoc to explore other career options.
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Post by guest not on Mar 30, 2022 19:16:37 GMT -5
I am in a similar situation...two campus visits, no offer (still waiting to hear back from one), currently a precariously employed researcher. This is my third year or so on the market. Next year will be my last, I've decided. I'll go all out, prep my materials a lot over the summer, etc. That's how I am deciding to end it...just saying in advance "this is it." I can already feel the burnout, I can barely get any work done anymore. I am starting to feel a bit unwell mentally. That's when it set in for me, the realizations that A: I am burned out and B: if I continue doing this for a significantly longer period of time I will actually lose my mind.
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Post by Me three on Mar 31, 2022 11:50:33 GMT -5
Third year on the market. I had 4 fly outs this year friends, and so far, no offer  two of these places ghosted me. yesterday i had that moment where I was like, guess my career is dead. Trying to find a way to grieve and move through this sadness. Wishing you all good luck! |
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Post by industry on Mar 31, 2022 17:44:40 GMT -5
Honestly, if I have to work as a researcher for some company, I think I'd be fine with that. I'll probably go on the market 1-2 more times, but only for TT jobs I would really be excited about. Being able to work from home and have a higher salary are some pretty strong benefits industry jobs have over academia.
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Post by stranger on Dec 13, 2022 1:23:58 GMT -5
Third year on the market. I had 4 fly outs this year friends, and so far, no offer two of these places ghosted me. yesterday i had that moment where I was like, guess my career is dead. Trying to find a way to grieve and move through this sadness. Wishing you all good luck! It’s so disrespectful that departments ghost candidates whom they interviewed or invited for a campus visit. Sorry that it’s happened to you. |
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Post by happened to me too on Dec 13, 2022 16:31:37 GMT -5
Third year on the market. I had 4 fly outs this year friends, and so far, no offer two of these places ghosted me. yesterday i had that moment where I was like, guess my career is dead. Trying to find a way to grieve and move through this sadness. Wishing you all good luck! It’s so disrespectful that departments ghost candidates whom they interviewed or invited for a campus visit. Sorry that it’s happened to you. I wasn't notified even after I followed up. It seemed like an unfriendly and dysfunctional department during the visit though, so I wasn't too sad I didn't get the job. |
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Post by Hope on Jan 14, 2023 0:52:18 GMT -5
I hope you all got jobs this year!
Add me to the list of fly out failures. With so few jobs available, it looks like my academic career is over. Industry does not sound like a good fit for me, but it is either that or unemployment.
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Post by Spring Market on Jan 14, 2023 22:59:32 GMT -5
I hope you all got jobs this year! Add me to the list of fly out failures. With so few jobs available, it looks like my academic career is over. Industry does not sound like a good fit for me, but it is either that or unemployment. The job market continues into the spring. Please do not consider yourself a failure. There are still schools that are (or will be) interviewing, and if you study subfields that are high in demand (e.g., race crime or health), your academic career doesn't have to be over! |
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Post by thankyou on Jan 15, 2023 20:26:50 GMT -5
Thank you above poster. But sadly, I don't study a popular area in sociology. So my odds are extra low. Yeah I'll try again next year, but I'm trying to be realistic. My time is running out. Congrats to everyone who made it, I hope you all cherish being in the academy. Some of us gave everything we had just to come up short.
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Post by Quit on Mar 1, 2023 23:39:01 GMT -5
Feeling defeated. Applied to about 20 jobs, had 10 Zoom interviews, 2 campus visits, and no offer… This whole process is mentally draining.
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Post by same on Mar 8, 2023 11:03:43 GMT -5
Feeling defeated. Applied to about 20 jobs, had 10 Zoom interviews, 2 campus visits, and no offer… This whole process is mentally draining. In the same boat. There are just too many qualified PhDs and too few jobs. If you are getting interviews, then you are good enough to be a TT sociologist. However, you struggle with "fit" or luck. |
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Post by you'll be fine on Apr 22, 2023 18:46:58 GMT -5
I second the comment that if you are getting interviews, you ARE good enough. I'd also say that you must have been a good fit, which is why you got invited. You just got unlucky. I'm so sorry. This is a pretty tough position to be in. I did get lucky, so this may be coming from a position of privilege. However, at the start of the job market process, I really had no idea about how I'd fare, and I wrote a letter to my future self promising to myself that I will prioritize my well-being over my success. Which meant that if I didn't get a tenure track job, I wasn't willing to put myself through the anxiety and instability of doing a post-doc, and would whole-heartedly search for non-academic jobs. I know some postdocs are great, and they might actually improve your chances of success, so I am by no means suggesting that people shouldn't do postdocs. But only I know myself and what I can emotionally cope with, so I made a plan that put my well-being first. I advise digging deep and trying to really understand where you are in terms of your stress tolerance threshold. If you can take more, by all means go for another postdoc. But if not, do remember that this was always just one of many paths to a happy and fulfilling life.
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Post by Ok! on Apr 22, 2023 21:03:51 GMT -5
Feeling defeated. Applied to about 20 jobs, had 10 Zoom interviews, 2 campus visits, and no offer… This whole process is mentally draining. In the same boat. There are just too many qualified PhDs and too few jobs. If you are getting interviews, then you are good enough to be a TT sociologist. However, you struggle with "fit" or luck. I ended up getting an offer last week! Thank you all for your kindness and support. |
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Post by nice! on Apr 23, 2023 10:39:03 GMT -5
Congratulations!
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