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Post by Guest4 on Dec 19, 2023 16:04:24 GMT -5
curious if there's a sense of these numbers for sociology? in econ there seems to be common wisdom that there's an average 3 interviews per 1 flyout and 3 flyouts per 1 offer. the aea also did a study where the mean number of applications for 300 people was 155, with a mean of 3 offers.
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Post by anon prof on Dec 19, 2023 17:30:35 GMT -5
Hmm well back in the day the first time I was on the market I got 3 flyouts and 1 offer. I think I had like 2 phone/skype interviews IIRC, and one was at the place I got a job, the other led to a flyout but no offer.
I'm now back on the market trying to move, and in the past few years of applying extremely selectively I have had 3 places that asked for letters after not asking for them initially and then didn't follow up, 2 zoom interviews one of which didn't result in a flyout, 2 flyouts (1 to a place I did a zoom interview with, 1 to a place that didn't do zoom interviews), 1 rejection, and 1 TBD. So, thus far my ratio of campus visits to offers started at 1/3, then went to 1/4, to now possibly 1/5 or 2/5 depending on what happens with the one I'm waiting to hear back on. (so maybe I need to do one more flyout before I can get another offer if your ratio is correct). My zoom interview to flyout ratio has been more like 1 to 1 in part because I've gotten some flyouts without phone interviews.
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Post by r2 girl on Dec 28, 2023 14:48:50 GMT -5
I got 9 flyouts including a couple R1s, but mostly R2s. I then got 3 offers from overall well ranked R2s (ie, top 100 undergrad unis, only one with a PhD), and one no-PhD R1 offer. I decided to take the R2 with a PhD (2-2), even though it's not a well ranked PhD -- everyone there seemed friendly, and hopefully there will be more research support.
Did I land at Princeton or Berkeley? No, and some snobby part of me is a bit disappointed in that. But I'm hoping this will be a good path for my overall life.
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Post by Guest0 on Feb 8, 2024 4:18:33 GMT -5
I got four flyouts and one offer this cycle.
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Post by grad on Feb 8, 2024 20:29:26 GMT -5
curious if there's a sense of these numbers for sociology? in econ there seems to be common wisdom that there's an average 3 interviews per 1 flyout and 3 flyouts per 1 offer. the aea also did a study where the mean number of applications for 300 people was 155, with a mean of 3 offers. These numbers track with what my institution (an R1) has seemed to be doing. For our last AP hire (open search), I heard tell that we got a couple of hundred applicants, from which they pulled a shortlist of about 10. Of those, three got flyouts and one was hired. For the AP hire before that, they also interviewed three and hired one.
For a subfield-specific search, I've heard that they typically expect roughly 100 applicants (depending to a great extent on the subfield, I imagine).
From what I've heard/experienced as an applicant, it seems the numbers are roughly similar at other (similar R1) institutions.
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Post by guest10 on Feb 9, 2024 14:17:25 GMT -5
I was on the market last year. Four flyouts, one offer.
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Post by Depends on Feb 11, 2024 13:06:32 GMT -5
I can see how there might be some trend somewhere but also it depends a lot on the sequence of events. I had 6 interviews and 2 flyouts. I got one offer, which was my top choice, so I accepted it. Because I’m on some strange spring timeline none of the 5 schools have finished up their searches and 4 haven’t even sent flyouts yet. Would I have ended up with 6 offers? Or just the one I have? No one knows because the order of events just doesn’t give me the luxury to collect all the offers before I make up my mind.
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Post by Politics on Feb 11, 2024 19:38:42 GMT -5
I’m a prof at an R1 in Florida, and we had less than 20 applications for an AP in soc opening (won’t go into more detail than that). Many of the applicants had direct ties to the university or region, so we had like 5-10 applicants from the rest of the country trying their luck.
Red state politics are reshaping these dynamics in real time and making things more competitive for everyone.
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Post by red on Feb 12, 2024 8:59:22 GMT -5
I’m a prof at an R1 in Florida, and we had less than 20 applications for an AP in soc opening (won’t go into more detail than that). Many of the applicants had direct ties to the university or region, so we had like 5-10 applicants from the rest of the country trying their luck. Red state politics are reshaping these dynamics in real time and making things more competitive for everyone. It is unfortunate, but as an applicant, I don't apply to red states that are hostile towards higher ed like FL. Not worth the risk! |
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Post by grad on Feb 12, 2024 21:48:57 GMT -5
I’m a prof at an R1 in Florida, and we had less than 20 applications for an AP in soc opening (won’t go into more detail than that). Many of the applicants had direct ties to the university or region, so we had like 5-10 applicants from the rest of the country trying their luck. Red state politics are reshaping these dynamics in real time and making things more competitive for everyone. Woah. To me that's surprising. Of course political dynamics are a consideration, but as an applicant I considered them a consideration for a later stage--for whether or not I take an offer if lucky enough to get one, not send in an application. |
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Post by Grad2 on Feb 13, 2024 8:28:22 GMT -5
Woah. To me that's surprising. Of course political dynamics are a consideration, but as an applicant I considered them a consideration for a later stage--for whether or not I take an offer if lucky enough to get one, not send in an application. Samesies! Was excited to get a zoom from New College of Florida even though I would accept any other offer over them. But I just don’t have the luxury to be picky |
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Post by SCmember on Feb 14, 2024 10:11:39 GMT -5
For a subfield-specific search, I've heard that they typically expect roughly 100 applicants (depending to a great extent on the subfield, I imagine).
From what I've heard/experienced as an applicant, it seems the numbers are roughly similar at other (similar R1) institutions.
Can confirm these numbers for my mid-ranked R1 |
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Post by Teaching Apps on Mar 4, 2024 14:48:10 GMT -5
These numbers for apps seem to fit the other grad students in my program that were trying for R1 jobs. I was focused on the teaching track for the job market and was pretty selective in placing my apps. I included soc, crim, and cj in my app parameters. I also only focused on blue states with a few chosen red states. ~20 applications, 6 zoom interviews, 3 fly-outs (declined 1), 3 offers (2 teaching and 1 TT at a SLAC), and 5 applications/interviews that I withdrew from after accepting an offer.
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