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Post by Consis on Oct 12, 2011 21:01:27 GMT -5
I'm wondering if anyone has a sense of how much overlap in the short lists of open searches is typical.
Would you guess that UMass, Michigan, Cornell etc. come up with the same five people? None of the same people?
I'm curious how wide the top tier of candidates might be, and how much agreement (say between R1 schools) there is on who is in it.
I'm sure data on this will be weak, so wild speculation is welcome!
And yes, I'm just trying to assess whether to join the Terrified thread now that UMass and Cornell have shot me down. (I know, we're just getting started. Crikey)
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Post by unclekarl on Oct 12, 2011 21:19:23 GMT -5
There are 5-10 Superstars who will get their pick of places. I think the rest of us apply to 80 places, and eventually we get noticed. I say this, having been on the market before and that was the general trend that I saw. One can never tell. Some places are looking for someone just like *you*, while others have put out an ad to justify hiring an inside candidate.
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Post by trudat on Oct 12, 2011 22:03:38 GMT -5
I agree with Unclekarl - every year there a few top candidates that get interviewed by many of the same places, but it's never as simple as a "top 5" that everyone interviews. At my top 20 department last year, we interviewed people that we knew were interviewing at other top 20 programs as well as people who we knew only had 1 other interview at a top 50 (we hired the person with 1 other interview because he/she was the best fit). I imagine there is a bit of overlap with 10 or so people on many short lists but not all of them get called for the same interviews, and other people make it onto the list!
So- just because you don't make the cut at UMass or Cornell or Yale doesn't mean you won't make the cut at Michigan or Harvard or wherever. It really does come down to fit with the department and a bit of random luck.
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Post by observer on Oct 12, 2011 22:17:45 GMT -5
From what I've seen in a department that often brings in the superstars, a handful (2-4ish, not 10) have overlapped in many searches at the tip top, but there was less consistency than you might imagine for other "top" candidates. I'm thinking of some individuals who placed at schools of UMass caliber or better who only had two or three interviews.
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