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Post by assumptions on Jan 6, 2015 17:12:51 GMT -5
THIS! I'm a recent grad from a top R1 program and my first year on the market the Soc department at the SLAC where my dad works was hiring (he's in another field). Despite my years of teaching experience and receipt of teaching awards, Dad told me that he bumped into a member of the SC who said "Hey! Saw that your son applied for our position. But coming from [prestigious school] he probably really wouldn't want to come here." Dad was like "No he'd LOVE to come here! This is HOME. He loves this University." So it may be one of those #firstworldproblems that it seems arrogant and pretentious to complain about, but assumptions are made about R1 grads and about what they "really" want/can do when it comes to teaching; and sometimes experience, demonstrated ability or even literally saying I grew up admiring this university and would be honored for the opportunity to come home and join the faculty is not enough to over come those assumptions. And FWIW the person they ended up hiring was a really good fit and I readily admit a much better person for the job than me; so I'm not saying I should have gotten the job. My point, like That's me's point, is that its a challenge to convence teaching schools you WANT it. We should probably be more specific (top10, top20) since anyone who has a PhD went to an R1 (a PhD granting institution) top 5
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Post by That's me on Jan 6, 2015 17:16:10 GMT -5
Some people just don't listen. We aren't talking about thinking we're from a place that's too prestigious or that we have too many publications. We aren't conspiracy theorists or relying on myths. We don't need to comfort ourselves. None of that was the point. But, thanks for not listening?
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Post by homework on Apr 1, 2016 11:17:28 GMT -5
I am reviving this thread to emphasize the "DO YOUR HOMEWORK" advice. I am in a search committee. We just did phone interviews. There was one candidate who was doing REALLY well. Until it got to the part where they asked questions. And then they asked about our institution, and then were very surprised by our answer. I am talking about an aspect of my institution that is mentioned in the first line both in our wikipedia page, our institutional mission page, and our "about [institution]" page.
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