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Post by Waitlisted? on Dec 16, 2013 12:06:20 GMT -5
So, this may be the first time that I've gotten good news from this board. I guess I'm one of the wait listed ones for HP. I'll be crossing my fingers.
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Post by how common? on Dec 16, 2013 12:54:26 GMT -5
I wonder how common is it to get interviews at multiple sites. Is the mean>1?
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Post by Haven't heard on Dec 17, 2013 10:36:43 GMT -5
I called the HSS office, as I am one HSS applicant who has yet to hear anything. I was told, after a slight laugh, that they were still in the process of sending out notices and making selections. And to be patient.
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Post by tomorrow on Dec 17, 2013 10:43:27 GMT -5
dual applicants have to decide by 5pm today. So I think everyone who hasnt heard yet will hear by tomorrow. good luck!
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Post by how it works on Dec 17, 2013 11:01:22 GMT -5
I wonder how common is it to get interviews at multiple sites. Is the mean>1? I can't speak for HSS but for HP it works like this: (1) the applicant list is trimmed to about 15-20 for each discipline by a national board, (2) those applicant files and only those applicant files are sent to each of the sites, (3) each site makes some judgements/ranks and consults with the national office, (4) applicants are contacted for interviews at each site. Because of this system, most people often have more than one interview for HP.
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How it works for HSS?
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Post by How it works for HSS? on Dec 17, 2013 11:43:45 GMT -5
Thanks, that's helpful. My sense about HSS (from talking with people involved in the program, but I'm only piecing together what they've said) is that HSS works similarly, but I think the initial pool is bigger. After all, there are more sites (though barely so now with the loss of Michigan and Penn), and sometimes many interviewees at each site. I'm at a school that hosts HSS and we've sometimes had 16 candidates interviewing. So I imagine that the initial pool is probably quite a lot larger for HSS, to offer choices to the sites. I'm not sure whether or not that results in practice in much less overlap in candidates across the sites, though.
Does anyone know, for HP, how many people interview at each site from each discipline?
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Post by how it works on Dec 17, 2013 11:54:02 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, it's about 5 people for each discipline at each site. Last year because of overlap, I think there was a total of only 8 different sociologists interviewing at the 3 sites. 4 were hired (2 at Harvard b/c they did not get an economist) and at least two others received offers but declined. Odds were extremely good for those folks.
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Post by Whoa. on Dec 17, 2013 12:10:51 GMT -5
WOW. I had no idea odds were so good with HP! I just chose HSS, and now I'm kind of regretting my choice... there's just so little information about these programs, it's hard to know how to make good decisions.
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Post by actually on Dec 17, 2013 14:49:19 GMT -5
Looking back, I'd wish I had applied to HSS because they take more sociologists every year. 4 last year, 3 the year before, 6 before that...
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Post by anxious on Dec 18, 2013 11:42:45 GMT -5
Anybody receive news today yet?
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Post by help! on Dec 19, 2013 11:29:54 GMT -5
Hivemind,
I'm in a bind. My hiring department is not letting me proceed with the RWJF interview process. I've essentially been told that proceeding with the RWJF would mean forfeiting my TT offer. Has anyone else experienced this. What should I do?
Thanks for any replies, especially very quick replies!
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Post by hm on Dec 19, 2013 11:44:03 GMT -5
Generally, I would suggest taking the job, assuming it is one that you want. If you are only lukewarm on the job, then taking a risk and interviewing is not a bad choice, but it is a risk. You may not get the postdoc or you may get it and later have trouble finding a job (or as good of a job). Yes, RWJs are great opportunities, and can lead you to great things, but you have no guarantee. So it comes down to how excited you are about the job offered and how risk averse you feel. Although I do think that a position that wouldn't want an RWJ postdoc seems a little sketchy, but I don't know the circumstances.
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Post by same bind on Dec 19, 2013 12:03:55 GMT -5
Hivemind, I'm in a bind. My hiring department is not letting me proceed with the RWJF interview process. I've essentially been told that proceeding with the RWJF would mean forfeiting my TT offer. Has anyone else experienced this. What should I do? Thanks for any replies, especially very quick replies! Same thing happened to me last year. I was near the end of decision time on a TT offer with a handful of other TT interviews under my belt. I received two RWJ interviews. I was ready to take the first TT job offer but the chair said taking the RWJ interviews would void my contract. After a hellish weekend trying to decide what to do, I turned down the offer. Three days later I got an offer from a better TT department that allowed me to take the RWJ interviews. About 2 months later I got an RWJ offer. I couldn't be happier with my outcome. I've left out some details that might be important to you as to not totally out myself (although many people probably already know). Post here and I can contact you to discuss this more if you're interested.
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Post by Common. on Dec 19, 2013 13:18:53 GMT -5
I had the same situation and took the job, and I'm glad I did. In my case, I realized that if I did RWJ, what I'd ultimately hope to get in the end is something close to the job I had. Plus, on my advisor's advice, I looked at where people end up after HSS. Three are some total superstars in that program, who had created in me an impression that everyone got great jobs afterward, but that's actually not the case. I didn't think there was a guarantee I'd get such a good job again. In the end, I'm happy with my decision and was glad to get the next phase of my life started and not have a two year interlude (I think that's awesome for some people, but hard if you have kids OR, what my situation was, single and wanting to find a long-term partner in my long-term city). Anyway, it's never an easy choice. Whatever you do, good luck.
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Post by What'sUp on Dec 19, 2013 15:51:46 GMT -5
Still no word on my HSS application. A friend heard back on Dec. 13. What's up? Wonder why notifications of status aren't email out all at once?
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