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Post by venting on Jan 30, 2012 9:45:38 GMT -5
It really pisses me off when a school requests a syllabus for some bizarre course title, and you spend a full week on it, only to get immediately rejected. SCREW YOU SEARCH COMMITTEE.
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Post by I know on Jan 30, 2012 9:56:11 GMT -5
I know. This same thing happened to me last year but with two syllabi. I guess it wasnt THAT bad because now I have two course syllabi prepped that I could use, but I worked like a crazy person on it over one weekend when they told me on Friday that they wanted them by Monday, only to tell me that they ended up going with someone who had actually taught both those classes before. Thanks a lot.
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Post by des on Jan 30, 2012 13:45:14 GMT -5
I had that happen last year.
When they know that someone hasn't taught a course yet (assuming they didn't claim to have it prepped already), I wonder what they are attempting to evaluate by asking one to come up with a syllabus over the weekend. It almost seems like they must have something very specific (but not obvious to us) in mind that is a deal-breaker or maker.
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ohh
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Post by ohh on Jan 30, 2012 14:43:41 GMT -5
I know given the current climate of way too many applicants, that committees essentially have to nit-pick, but would a proposed syllabus really be the place? That just never crossed my mind.
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Post by des on Jan 30, 2012 14:48:10 GMT -5
ohh,
The only thing that I can think of is that perhaps SLACs like the one who requested this from me generally have (or expect) a different type of syllabus than an R1 or R2 would. In my case, I have only taught at my PhD institution (an R1), and perhaps they were wondering if my syllabus would include certain elements that are common there but maybe not so common where I am from. Just guessing...
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Post by i know on Jan 30, 2012 20:41:18 GMT -5
Me again- the syllabi I drafted were modeled off of other faculty's syllabi I got off the website, so I dont know if it was a matter of they were trying to throw it out based on the type of course I would design. They did say they were impressed with them-I still thought it was sort of a dick move though.
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ok
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Post by ok on Feb 1, 2012 17:30:04 GMT -5
Requesting something like this that is high effort could be a way to screen out random applications. You'd have to be really interested in the place to spend the time making a new syllabus.
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Post by VAP on Feb 2, 2012 20:48:49 GMT -5
Yeah, but then they should be really interested in you before they ask for one.
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ok
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Post by ok on Feb 3, 2012 9:32:32 GMT -5
True, but in this market, they can afford to do this and still get many applicants.
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Post by cmon on Feb 3, 2012 9:59:27 GMT -5
Yeah, but then they should be really interested in you before they ask for one. The obviously are interested in you. Stop making hiring decisions so personal; you aren't the only qualified candidate who is applying and not the only person who hopes to get the job. I understand the frustration, but if they cut the list down to 15 people, 80% of those semi-finalists are gonna have the exact same complaints you do after the next cut; you just happen to be in that 80% rather than the 20% who move on and feel like the process has been handled well, and then only one of those people will come away feeling like the committee made the best decision. |
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Post by unclekarl on Feb 3, 2012 14:05:14 GMT -5
Its a lot of work, but this type of thing may be critical for a school that heavily values teaching. You always have a choice to not write a syllabus, if its too much work. If the area is close to your field, it may also be of some use for teaching a future class.
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