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Post by As on Oct 21, 2011 9:41:44 GMT -5
Wiki says berkeley has scheduled an interview. Anyone have any more info? Have others been contacted.
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Post by bummer on Oct 21, 2011 11:08:11 GMT -5
When were people contacted?
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Post by seltz on Oct 21, 2011 11:35:15 GMT -5
People were contacted yesterday. I believe they had a faculty meeting midday yesterday and then contacted the candidates afterwards.
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Post by katydid on Oct 21, 2011 23:09:31 GMT -5
There was a short list of 7, of whom (I believe) 4 were called for campus visits.
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Post by noooooooooooooooooooo on Oct 27, 2011 20:55:06 GMT -5
After a slight mental break from these boards, I come back to this?! Oh man, my little dream is dead-ish. Well, good luck to the lucky peeps. Please hire me one day.
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Post by hmm on Oct 27, 2011 21:31:56 GMT -5
Let me guess. All the people contacted were from top 5 institutions? Us top 20s don't have a chance in this market!
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Post by prob on Oct 27, 2011 22:10:14 GMT -5
That's probably right about Berkeley only interviewing top-5 candidates but I don't think people in the "top20" have to worry too much...it's those in >20 that are screwed. And, there's some good reason for it: (a) selection; and (b) the training and much (not all!) of the work being done in those programs mostly stinks.
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Post by true but on Oct 27, 2011 22:31:21 GMT -5
Some top 20-25 departments also have the ivy league cachet--think Yale and Brown. The work there kinda sucks, but I bet some of them will weasel themselves into the top 10 every now and then. I do know of a couple of Yale sociologists in top 5 departments, currently.
That's a mix of prestige and an academic caste system, for ya.
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Post by why so low on Oct 27, 2011 22:39:04 GMT -5
I've always been curious about this: why is Yale's sociology department so low in the rankings relative to its other powerhouse social science departments (e.g., poli sci, econ, and history)? Did someone in their sociology department kill a litter of kittens on national television or something? Seriously, what gives?
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Post by Yale sux on Oct 27, 2011 23:36:16 GMT -5
Well, I'm no Yale expert, but I do know they were trying to cut the sociology department in the early 1990's due to a financial crisis. It never quite recovered. But, they did snatch Elijah Anderson from UPenn recently. It might move up the rankings come the next US News cycle for soc grad programs. Some more background info on Yale's sociology shoddy history: "In 1992, Yale’s administration attempted to shut down the entire Sociology Department in order to cut costs in the face of a financial crisis. The introduction of Richard Levin as University president the following year and a faculty vote against the move saved the department, Mayer said. This uncertainty, however, meant that department heads struggled to recruit new faculty. And in 1999, many senior faculty members in the department retired, leaving only two behind, Mayer said." Source: www.yaledailynews.com/news/2009/oct/15/sociology-department-seeks-a-place-to-call-home/
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Post by insider on Oct 27, 2011 23:54:12 GMT -5
That's probably right about Berkeley only interviewing top-5 candidates but I don't think people in the "top20" have to worry too much...it's those in >20 that are screwed. And, there's some good reason for it: (a) selection; and (b) the training and much (not all!) of the work being done in those programs mostly stinks. Cornell is interviewing at least one candidate from a >20.
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Post by well on Oct 28, 2011 0:17:46 GMT -5
^ Cornell is barely top 20, so that isn't too surprising. If this candidate is >30 that would surprise me.
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Post by top 60 on Oct 28, 2011 0:25:48 GMT -5
I'm no insider, but a quick visit to the Berkeley faculty page will reveal that a top 60 candidate is now a tenured professor there. Sometimes, even if rarely, the quality of one's work trumps the mere prestige of our PhD-granting departments.
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Post by not today on Oct 28, 2011 1:20:15 GMT -5
This market means New Rules. That top-60 tenured professor at Berkeley wouldn't get a foot in the door in the currently-glutted market of hyperqualified candidates clamoring over scare desirable appointments (RETIRE. FASTER. PLEASE!).
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Post by tru dat on Oct 28, 2011 15:32:23 GMT -5
Let's not be naive here. Berkeley is not going to hire a top 60 candidate now. But congrats to that person who made it to the top of the sociology hierarchy from such lowly ranked department. It must have been tough, so mad props on the achievement.
As an aside, I don't think Yale is that bad. Brown is pretty bad, though. Yale seems to be getting better. They are not top 15 caliber yet, but in a decade or so they may be with the improvements they are making to their department--both in terms of faculty (Anderson) and facilities/funding.
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