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Post by CanadianAbroad on Jan 22, 2014 1:40:35 GMT -5
I'm hoping in this thread for some feedback from people who either are Canadian and are looking for jobs or those who work in Canadian institutions.
I did my PhD at a Russell group UK university with a very good reputation in sociology. I'm still living abroad, but have been applying for jobs back in Canada for over a year now. I have yet to be shortlisted. I finished only a short while ago, have been steadily employed in research positions, have a very good amount of teaching experience (and teaching qualifications). What am I doing wrong? I have two publications in good journals in my field, and two more in the pipeline.
I know the market is bad, but is there anything specific I should be doing for the Canadian job market? I even made one of those damnable teaching dossiers for pete's sake.
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Post by canthelp on Jan 22, 2014 10:52:53 GMT -5
"UK university with a very good reputation in sociology."
Does such an institution actually exist?
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Post by Absol on Jan 22, 2014 11:07:48 GMT -5
"Does such an institution actually exist?"
In my sub-field of sociology, absolutely.
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Post by Back to Original Question on Jan 22, 2014 11:31:26 GMT -5
I would agree that the job market in Canada is really tight. I am Canadian with a Canadian PhD and I currently have a tt in the USA (SLAC), but I have applied selectively to jobs in Southern Ontario with no luck. I am not sure you are doing anything wrong. It is just a really difficult market.
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Post by Canadian on Jan 22, 2014 18:23:17 GMT -5
I have a TT job in Canada. The market is indeed very tight. When I got my job, there were 50 apps for my position. Now we routinely get 100-150. Also, Canada is so small population wise that there are just very few available positions in any specialty area. Can take years to see one posting that fits you well. Marketing yourself as a methodologist or theorist seems to help..... Or crim. beyond that, just keep trying.
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Post by Yes on Jan 23, 2014 2:54:15 GMT -5
"UK university with a very good reputation in sociology." Does such an institution actually exist? Quite a few actually. Exeter, LSE, Oxford. . . |
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Post by uknogood on Jan 23, 2014 11:10:25 GMT -5
"UK university with a very good reputation in sociology." Does such an institution actually exist? Quite a few actually. Exeter, LSE, Oxford. . . Exeter? LOL LSE and Oxford aren't exactly seen as competitive with Top 20 US departments, either. I'd put them well below a place like the U of Toronto. |
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Post by Disagreed on Jan 23, 2014 12:36:28 GMT -5
I know of a few hires in the last few years at Canadian universities that have been from LSE, Cambridge. I know of a lot of older faculty from LSE, Sussex, Edinburgh, etc. Besides, there are great people from places like Carleton and York getting Canadian jobs. They're not top 20 and I'm sure some top 20 US grads applied. If the OP is a Canadian citizen, they may be a better candidate than a non-Canadian from a top 20 as long as they're not aiming for UofT, UBC, McGill.
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Post by CanadianAbroad on Jan 25, 2014 2:00:51 GMT -5
Well, thanks everyone for disparaging my degree and making me feel even worse about my job prospects. I really appreciate that and thank you for all your hard work and tireless efforts to demean others. I hope this has been beneficial to your fragile egos.
Returning to the subject, thanks for those who are in Canadian academia for giving a bit of a view as to what is going on. It really does seem like a tight market. I honestly don't think the Canadian citizenship is really taken into account any more.
I've been applying all over the place, but maybe I should just stop trying to go back to Canada. Clearly it's an insider's market.
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Post by Sorry on Jan 25, 2014 13:12:39 GMT -5
Canadian market is fairly cutthroat right now, as you can see. Advice is is hard to give as it sometimes feels like a crapshoot based on random fit. Have you tried for a post-doc at a Canadian university? Or even a contract position to get your foot in. Ignore the haters (or more likely, hater). That isn't an opinion I've heard elsewhere.
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Post by another canadian on Jan 25, 2014 20:44:41 GMT -5
CanadianAbroad– sorry for the disparaging comments above. Try not to take them to heart. Last year, I applied to three Canadian schools and was invited to campus at two. I declined one visit and was offered the job at the other. Both were excellent fits for my research and teaching (which, in the case of my research, is about Canada). In the case of the school where an offer was extended, I was left with the impression that the other candidates were from Canadian universities. And that they got close to 80 apps. For a reference point, my PhD is from a top 50 American program.
The market is tight everywhere, and Canada is no exception.
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Post by CanadianAbroad on Jan 27, 2014 0:32:54 GMT -5
I've not tried for a post-doc in Canada because I've never seen a single one on my area! But this is a good suggestion.
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Post by sshrc? on Jan 27, 2014 2:38:09 GMT -5
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Post by or on Jan 27, 2014 2:41:14 GMT -5
Banting, Killam...
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Post by VeryAmericanCriminologist on Sept 28, 2016 10:07:26 GMT -5
So I asked this question to my graduate director and she honestly had no idea, but what are the chances that a crim ABD will get an interview for a TTAP at a Canadian university?
There are at least 4 announcements out that, were they in the US, or if they encouraged international applicants y they would be on the top of my list, but they explicitely say preference is given to Canadian citizens/permanent residents.
Any Canadian criminologists from the US have stories to share? Or Canadian faculty in crim departments who have gone through a hiring season or two?
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