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Post by advice on Sept 21, 2011 15:03:44 GMT -5
I was at the ASA in Vegas last month and an agent from a book publisher approached me about publishing my dissertation, as is, which would not prohibit me from publishing articles out of it.
I completed the diss 2 years ago (I've been a postdoc since) and am on the market this year.
I had not planned on turning my diss into a book, and do not plan to do so if I don't go with this press.
An internet search on this publisher shows mixed reviews, with some people questioning the quality of work that they put out.
I think my diss was ok, but nothing amazing.
Should I go with them and have a book publication on my CV, even with a so-so publisher???
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Post by no on Sept 21, 2011 15:29:21 GMT -5
No, don't publish with the vanity press. Your dissertation's "book" (term used loosely) would be worth approximately nothing in the long run for tenure purposes at most places. You're better off chopping out individual journal articles OR revising the dissertation into something that would be published by a 'real' publisher (using peer reviewers, editors, etc.)
The ONLY reason you might want to consider the vanity press is if you're in a position where, to get tenure, you need to have SOMETHING published, and there is no quality checking/controls on what that might be. If that's the case, publish with the vanity press and forget about it.
BTW, it's been 2 years man, chop out those articles already!
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Post by sucker on Sept 21, 2011 15:52:50 GMT -5
lemme guess: Edwin Mellon Press
amiright?
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Post by zxc on Sept 21, 2011 16:08:34 GMT -5
Just to nitpick a bit: If a press is willing to publish something sight unseen as is, it is not a "so-so publisher."
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Post by clarification on Sept 21, 2011 16:23:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice on my initial post, I'll probably not go with the press.
Just for clarification:
The press has an editorial review process, but still gets questioned as far as quality.
And I have published articles out of the diss already, yet I think there are several more in there still.
As per one of your posts: edwin mellen has a bad reputation?
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Post by sucker redux on Sept 21, 2011 20:00:17 GMT -5
aright, one more.
lemme guess: cambridge scholars press?
amiright?
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Post by Dont on Sept 21, 2011 20:11:50 GMT -5
Check out the thread bellow on LFB Scholarly Publishing.
Presses that rely solely on "editor reviews" are not "scholarly presses." All scholarship is peer reviewed. While other forms of review may count as "academic" it does not count as "new knowledge."
Most schools/programs would not let you past the 3rd year review with such a "publication" and you'd be stigmatized for further employment because your association with the press would dog you for the rest of your career. You'd be seen as someone who either tried to take a short cut, or, what is worse, someone who could not pass peer review. Either way, your professionalism and skills would be called into question.
That noted, there are plenty of universities that don't care about any of the above.
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Post by naming names on Sept 22, 2011 9:03:39 GMT -5
Thanks for all the great advice.
Yes, the press is Edwin Mellen, and I've seen some questions about its academic integrity on-line.
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Post by Sucker cubed on Sept 22, 2011 10:27:59 GMT -5
Yes, the press is Edwin Mellen knew it!
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Post by oh noes on Sept 22, 2011 13:01:00 GMT -5
aright, one more. lemme guess: cambridge scholars press? amiright? Wait, they're not good? But, but, they have CAMBRIDGE in the name?!? *sob sob* (Security code = 'Come On Down'... you could be the next contestant to piss away your dissertation research and future as an academic!)
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Post by Nelson on Sept 23, 2011 13:46:31 GMT -5
HAHA!!!
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Post by vain on Oct 12, 2012 16:50:40 GMT -5
I see that Cambridge Scholars Press has been questioned on the Chronicle thread. Can anyone here respond as to whether this is a vanity press?
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Post by yes on Oct 23, 2012 14:01:53 GMT -5
Yes. It is a vanity press for all meaningful intents and purposes.
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Post by CSP on Oct 23, 2012 15:15:01 GMT -5
wait you mean its not the same as cambridge university press? but it has cambridge in the title.......
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Post by not on Oct 23, 2012 16:16:54 GMT -5
It's not a vanity press. It has the name it does because it was started by a group of profs at Cambridge, but has never been associated with Cambridge Univ. Press.
Vanity presses require authors to foot the bill for publication. Legitimate academic presses do not. And, CSP does not require authors to pay for publication. I think it's still pretty new, but a serious academic press.
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