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Post by jadedsociologist on Oct 25, 2011 12:19:20 GMT -5
Top Ten Things You Wish You Had Answered to "How Will You Manage a 4-4 Teaching Load and Produce Cutting Edge Research?"
10. I plan to shun my family and friends for the next 10-15 years.
9. All of my assignments will require graduate students to write a chapter of my upcoming book in return for a place in the Acknowledgments section.
8. By harboring a deep resentment toward the department that I take out on undergraduates.
7. I will resign myself to mediocrity in both teaching and research.
6. I plan to cut and paste wikipedia entries into my article submissions and hope nobody notices.
5. By eschewing my actual research interests in favor of quick, dirty content analyses that reveal nothing of substance but are published quickly.
4. By co-authoring another redundant Introduction to Sociology textbook.
3. Oh, I'll just be working here until I meet a rich partner with links to substantial grant money, then I plan to quit without notice.
2. Two words: auto-ethnography.
1. I'm actually a speed addict so that should be no problem.
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Post by ohh on Oct 25, 2011 12:41:39 GMT -5
Nice sense of humor!
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Post by thanks on Oct 25, 2011 13:44:05 GMT -5
Thanks man.
Was getting worried about the tragical and somber tone of the forum.
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Post by solutions on Oct 25, 2011 14:30:45 GMT -5
Good point about speed - I was going to say
11. Cocaine.
also:
12. By the power of Greyskull!
Tenure doesn't have to be so bad. Some universities with 2/2s "only" require 5-6 pubs, provided some combination of the other standard metrics are met - first- or sole-authorship, high(er) quality journals, etc. State institutions tend to provide far more clarity on the issue, but you can google for tenure/promotion practices and a faculty handbook online. 4/4s are going have even lower requirements and/or might accept book reviews, encyclopedia entries, and technical reports as evidence of scholarly activity.
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Post by lol on Oct 25, 2011 15:43:20 GMT -5
LOL @auto-ethnography
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Post by rrr on Oct 25, 2011 16:06:14 GMT -5
^ My cat-filled house is very interesting! Just you wait until you see my fur covered research notes.
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Post by dowhut on Oct 25, 2011 19:07:11 GMT -5
Most of the people that I know who are working at 2-2s are expected to get more like 12-15 publications for tenure, not 5-6.
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Post by anon on Oct 25, 2011 19:37:09 GMT -5
i am at a top 20 and it's 10...if someone tells you that you need 15 publications for tenure, run...
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Post by unclekarl on Oct 25, 2011 19:54:35 GMT -5
The standard is changing. Ten used to be a norm. Now, it seems to be more like 15-20. There are people on the market this year who have 10 pubs... & they aren't getting interviews regularly.
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Post by abc123 on Oct 25, 2011 20:01:35 GMT -5
Well then I feel really lucky to be at a big public R1 that has much more modest and reasonable expectations around publications for tenure. This department actually values, you know, quality instead of just quantity, and teaching instead of just research.
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Post by notyomamasmeritocracy on Oct 25, 2011 21:03:32 GMT -5
you people killed the funny thread.
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Post by lol on Oct 25, 2011 21:29:19 GMT -5
you people.
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Post by grrrr on Oct 26, 2011 7:46:13 GMT -5
NO SERIOUS TALKING ON THE FUNNY THREAD. Only top 10 lists. Grrrrrrrr.
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Post by solutions on Oct 26, 2011 14:30:51 GMT -5
The standard is changing. Ten used to be a norm. Now, it seems to be more like 15-20. 15-20 articles <i>between hire and tenure</i> is just silly to me and close to impossible for most sociologists, especially if you collect your own data. It's a different story if you published in grad school and as a postdoc. So this discussion really should clarify total publication record versus publication only on the tenure clock. When I posted above, I meant 5-6 publications while on the tenure clock was tenurable at several institutions I know of with 2/2 teaching loads. Also keep in mind that some universities have a 6-year tenure clock (you submit your portfolio in the fall of the 6th year, so you only have 5 actual years in which to publish), while others have a 7-year clock (6 full years). |
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Post by rrr on Oct 26, 2011 14:38:55 GMT -5
Too serious. I want to hear about what other people are doing in their auto ethnographies.
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